Kommerzielles Netzwerk

Kommerzielles Netzwerk

What is the city for you?

Defining the city is very complicated as it changes over time. If we focus on the present, the city is a source of solutions and a source of problems. Our speciality is working on the problems, which are very broad and have many fronts. Our work is always centred on public space, nature and the implementation of these things in the city.

Do you think we need to adopt a more holistic vision of urban space?

Many people are already talking about the holistic vision of urban space. It is where we need to be heading, but it is highly nuanced. Holistic means cross-cutting, that we can add all the elements together. Our opinion is that the real solution lies in putting one of these things at the centre of all problems. And what we put at the centre is nature. Generally speaking, people have always been the focus of all the solutions to our problems. The idea of putting nature in the spotlight I believe is more powerful than a cross-cutting approach.

Does the city of the future exist?

Lots of people talk about the city of the future and they’re mistaken, because the city of the future is the one we have right here. We’re in the future already. We are constructing the buildings today that people will be living in in sixty years. So, the future is here, right now. We shouldn’t be thinking about what things are going to be like, but rather about what they are like and how we do them today.

Our opinion is that the real solution lies in putting one of these things at the centre of all problems. And what we put at the centre is nature.

Park on the covering of the railway

Park on the covering of the railway

Vilafranca del Penedès, Spain

Entering more personal terrain, what are the roots of your interest in urbanism and architecture?

My partner Enric Batlle and I have been working in this area for over 40 years. Landscape design has always been there: together with urban space, planning and construction. It has kind of come from all sides. Enric is the son of a gardener, and has always been imbued with a sensibility for nature. And my father was a builder, so the rationality of construction and building production has always been a part of my makeup. Neither of us work in this profession because of those family roots, but, ultimately, they have played a large part. We both started working together in the studio of Elías Torres and José Antonio Martínez la Peña, where the idea of the construction of public space and nature was of central importance, and that has also been an influence right from the start.

Do you think that Barcelona is a world leader in design, architecture and urbanism?

Ever since the 80s, Barcelona has been a model city for many things: we have always attracted the world’s attention. The fact that we were Spain’s most cosmopolitan city in the 60s and 70s and that, with the recovery of democracy, we became a leader in public space construction has meant that what has come to be known as the Barcelona model (which is not one model, but many), has served as a model for the rest of the world. In the 80s in New York there was talk about the Barcelona model, and also in Le Monde. We have always been a focal point, and what has been done here has served as an example for other countries to follow. We have also looked to other countries.

Past, present, and future in the city

What do you think we have learnt from past crises and how we can deal with them?

One of the best things that’s happened to the city is having a very serious problem and overcoming it. The last pandemic that we all went through showed us how cities have to evolve. It showed us through our pain. But, if we are able to learn from what happened, we can improve cities. I think that in the future the minimum unit for isolation cannot be someone’s home, it has to be the neighbourhood. We have to build neighbourhoods that can offer green spaces, services, healthcare and work. It is very important that they be self-sufficient and that they can be isolated from other situations. Life should not be isolated by single units, but rather in groups.

I’m from the Sants neighbourhood, and I never tire of telling people. I really value life in neighbourhoods which bring together all services, including work, because they generate their own communities, the famous 15-minute city that was so widely promoted, where movement is always across short distances, and you can walk to wherever you want and there are service centres and then large communication systems. Sants, for example, has always been like that. The second metro line that was built in Barcelona was the transversal line that linked Sants with the centre. It always had trams, the 56 and 57, which went to the centre. It has always been a neighbourhood with good transport connections, where people can live well, but which can also be enclosed within itself.

The lesson we need to learn from the other major crisis, in 2008, should be that real estate cannot be given speculative value. Giving real estate speculative value is a big mistake, because it produces bricks, but doesn’t produce a city, it produces buildings that do not make a city. We have to invest in the city and not in buildings.

Can Bada park

Can Bada park

Badalona, Spain
Vallmora park

Vallmora park

El Masnou, Spain

Do you think we need more green spaces in cities, beyond the traditional parks and gardens?

Yes. We have often honed in on the idea that the city needs more green spaces. We differentiate the home from green space. The home and the park, the home and the garden. That’s something we have to break away from. The situation is more ambiguous than that. What we propose is the idea of fusing city and nature, not to make parks, but rather that the whole of the city has the function of a park. That the streets don’t have drains that take the rainwater to the sewers, for example, but rather that this water drains into the water table or accumulates and is then directed to the water table. The streets should function like gardens, the trees in the city not like city trees, but rather like a garden, in order to improve quality of life.

The whole city needs to be natural. Rewilding the city is one of the parameters of our book. The city needs to fuse both aspects again. The city needs to be a biophilic place, so that there can be insects, butterflies and bees, and we need to understand that this can happen alongside urban life.

What urban life has sought is an anthropocentric comfort that runs contrary to life in nature. The moment trees are chosen for the city that don’t produce pollen (to avoid allergens) or trees that don’t produce fruits (to avoid staining the streets), we are trying to read the city from a human viewpoint. But from the perspective of nature, trees have to produce fruit, the fruit has to fall to the floor and stain the floor. And that’s fine. Among other things because the floor doesn’t have to be something that can be stained, but instead could be earth that absorbs the flesh of the fruit. And it would encourage animals into the city, and not just dogs on leads: insects, bees and, therefore, pollination. A life cycle.

Do you think we might one day see the city as part of the natural environment?

It’s not that we have to perceive the city in the future as part of the natural environment, but rather that we have to start doing that right now. We have to install operational systems from nature in the city itself. We work in public space with elements that correspond to public space. If you work in a place that has earth, you work with the earth, you work with vegetation.

With urban furniture it’s the same thing. We want urban furniture to have the same natural value as the intervention we are carrying out in nature. I would ask the people working in urban furniture production to start working out how to make urban furniture using purely natural elements and, therefore, move away from artificial elements. So we can have the same discourse in the landscape as in the elements that adorn it.

It’s not that we have to perceive the city in the future as part of the natural environment, but rather that we have to start doing that right now. We have to install operational systems from nature in the city itself.

Joan Roig

Architect and co-founder of Batlleiroig
Joan Roig